Faroe Islands 2, Scotland 2
Petersen (6, 13) Lambert (61), Ferguson (83)

07 Sep 2002
Svangaskard Stadium, Toftir
Att: 4,500

"I could not understand it. Where was Berti's plan? What was he doing? Where was the technique. the spirit, the fight?" Gunther Netzer

John Petersen puts the Faroes ahead
John Petersen puts the Faroes ahead
John Petersen celebrates putting the Faroes ahead
Petersen celebrates putting the Faroes ahead
Paul Dickov challenges against Jon Roi Jacobsen
Dickov challenges Jacobsen

Paul Dickov cannot belive the performance
John Petersen celebrates scoring the second of the Faroe Islands' goals
The Faroe Islands appear to condemn Scotland to defeat as they celebrate their second on 12 minutes
Scotland's Allan Johnston fights to keep the ball as the Faroe Islands press forward
Scotland's fight takes a while to materialise as the Faroe Islands challenge for every ball
Berti Vogts issues substitute Steven Thompson with some instructions during the match against the Faroes

Bertie Vogts talks team tactics with a substitute in the second half
Bertie Vogts reshuffles the Scotland side to try to counter the Faroe Islands' attack

Allan Johnston is horrified to allow a chance to get by
Allan Johnston looks disappointed as an excellently worked chance goes begging
Barry Ferguson celebrates his equaliser against the Faroe Islands
Long-suffering Scotland claw their way back into the game as Barry Ferguson celebrates the equaliser
Dobie was anonymous throughout Crainey in action for scotland
Scott Dobie contributed little | Stephen Crainey was given a torrid time
Barry Ferguson scores Scotland's equaliser
Ferguson grabs the Scotland equaliser
Barry Ferguson grabs the Scotland equaliser
Ferguson grabs the Scotland equaliser
Christian Dailly and Stephen Crainey troop off
Dailly and Crainey troop off

Fans were left ashamed of the national team

We gave game to world ... look at us now
 

IF FOOTBALL writers appear to have a way with words, it is, to a certain extent, because we spend so much time eating them. They are rarely unpalatable or indigestible, largely because fairly regular sittings through the years have become a routine that sometimes seems like a habit.

Every so often, however, there is about them a sourness that produces a gagging effect. Watching what now passes for Scotland’s national football team being outplayed by opponents who are essentially a parish side, on the very day that a shimmeringly optimistic assessment of their prospects appeared in these columns, the sensation went beyond that, to nausea.

In these circumstances, self-recrimination is the first stage of the process, the sinking feeling deriving from that what-have-I-done? and how-stupid-must-I-look? form of shame which causes the victim to segue to the second stage, which is the panicky mental search for mitigation.

This usually involves fingering accomplices and, in this case, they were not hard to find. A preview that virtually vibrated with expectation had been, to a fair degree, inspired by the buoyant assertiveness of Berti Vogts and some of his players in the days before the match, as well as reports from the Scots’ training ground of a new dynamic about their work.

This intelligence, coupled with whispers from local journalists that the Faroes were not particularly distinguished, even by their own moderate standards, were sufficient to form the conviction that Scotland would have the power to erase the memory of their ignominious 1-1 draw on their last visit to the Svangaskard Stadium in Toftir in 1999.

But these elements, which, in retrospect, amounted to nothing more substantial than hearsay, should not have been allowed to dispel the dread with which the game had been initially anticipated. This was based on much more solid evidence: the abject performances of the Scots in the defeats they had sustained in each of the five full internationals they had played since Vogts succeeded Craig Brown last March.

The realisation that the original feeling had been, as it almost invariably is in these circumstances, a much more reliable guide to what would occur, simply deepened the sense of guilt. Even that earlier apprehension, however, did not encompass the shabbiness that would mark the Scots’ endeavours.

Even now, 24 hours after the event - time enough for the intemperate indignation of the immediate aftermath to have been replaced by rational deliberation - it is impossible to escape the conclusion that this was the most scandalous performance in the 130 years since Scotland, in partnership with England, pioneered international football at the West of Scotland cricket ground in Glasgow.

In terms of significance, the scoreline is an irrelevance. Even if a victory that would have been miraculous had been fluked in the eight minutes that remained after a two-goal deficit had been wiped out, it could not have obliterated the enduring image of a sluggish, pedestrian, unimaginative, dispirited and wholly unskilled Scottish team who were an insult to their heritage.

If this criticism is couched in unusually savage terms, it is because the nature of the performance makes it unavoidable. At this point, exemptions should be introduced, because they - or more precisely, he - will not take up much space. Robert Douglas, the Celtic goalkeeper, was not only mercilessly exposed by his feckless defenders at both goals, but, with his later work, single-handedly prevented the victory the Faroese deserved.

The outfield players, from back to front and without exception, were, in terms of technique, pace, inventiveness, incisiveness and alertness, living several notches below the poverty line. Stephen Crainey made his own curriculum vitae look like a forgery by looking as though he had never before played at left-back, allowing Jakup Borg and Christian Jacobsen respectively the space in which to deliver the crosses from which John Petersen scored the goals which gave the Faroes a 2-0 lead after only 12 minutes.

His Old Firm partner, Maurice Ross of Rangers, was similarly negligent, allowing Petersen to run straight past him to convert the Jacobsen centre for the second goal. After the scorer had gone past him, with the ball having left Jacobsen’s foot some time before, Ross betrayed his own guilt by raising his arm in a despairing, pathetic plea for a non-existent offside.

In between the two admittedly novice full-backs, David Weir and Christian Dailly gave a demonstration of the art of the central defender of which Ally McCoist would have been ashamed. In midfield, Paul Lambert merely confirmed this observer’s long-held conviction that his decision to return to the international game a year after quitting was ill-advised.

The goal that Lambert helped to provide - it was not really his, as his screwed shot would have been off target but for being deflected over the line by Jon Roi Jacobsen - was the only moment of relief he enjoyed from a depressing day.

Beside him, Barry Ferguson toiled as prosaically as the rest, even his equalising goal - a simple clip past Jens Knudsen after Crainey’s cross from the left had given him only the goalkeeper to beat - not enough to restore his questionable reputation as an exceptional talent.

In the wide areas, Paul Dickov, a graph of whose career looks like the Footsie 100 Index on Black Wednesday, was imprisoned by his own inadequacy, while Allan Johnston gave a practical demonstration of the reasons why he cannot make the top 19 of Steve McClaren’s squad at Middlesbrough.

The striking partnership of Kevin Kyle and Scott Dobie is young, inexperienced and clearly in need of substantial progress before they can be considered to have even international potential, far less readiness.

All of this inferiority was highlighted by a Faroese side whose own shortcomings - a number of golden opportunities squandered before and after the Scots scored their goals - were exposed by their failure to win a match in which they were palpably the better team.

BBC ONLINE

Lucky Scots scrape draw in Faroes
 

 
Scotland piled renewed pressure on coach Berti Vogts as they scraped an embarrassing draw against the Faroe Islands in this European Championship qualifier.

The part-timers looked superior to the Scots for long periods and quickly took a two-goal lead through John Petersen. The Scots improved slightly after half-time and got back into the game after a deflected Paul Lambert goal.

Barry Ferguson grabbed an equaliser with eight minutes to go but that could not disguise the ineptitude of the Scots' performance. Knudsen came under pressure for the first time in the sixth minute after good work by Crainey, but Dobie was penalised for a push on the keeper. From the free-kick, the Faroes promptly went up the park and took the lead.

Jakob Borg was given too much room to cross on the right and his ball in was met by the unmarked Petersen who headed beyond Douglas. Incredibly, the Faroes made it two in 12 minutes when Petersen got on the end of a similar cross from Borg and finished comprehensively with Maurice Ross and Davie Weir marking fresh air.

Scotland were certainly having most of the possession, but their first decent effort on goal came in the 28th minute when Kevin Kyle flashed a header over the bar. Allan Johnston ought to have pulled a goal back for the Scots five minutes before the interval, but his sidefooted volley ended the wrong side of the post after a good knock-down by Kyle. Christian Dailly also had a golden opportunity to reduce the deficit, but his touch was awful when he only had to lob Knudsen. A Kyle header that went well wide was Scotland's last effort before half time, and the Sunderland striker should have done better after the break than to head tamely past the post.

Petersen should have had a hat-trick after 54 minutes when he got on the end of precise cutback, but the ball bobbled as he struck it and flew over the bar. Kyle struck the top of the bar as Scotland desperately pressed for a goal, but it finally came in highly fortunate circumstances. A long throw eventually fell to Lambert and though his shot was heading wide it took two deflections before ending up in the back of the net.

The Faroes almost restored their two-goal lead immediately as they cut the Scottish defence open, but the final shot was comfortably held by Douglas. But the chances were coming for Scotland and Stevie Crawford and then Scott Dobie should have done better from good positions. Johnston was guilty of a dreadful piece of decision-making when the ball fell to him in space at the back post. Rather than taking a touch, the winger blasted the ball high and wide to the relief of Knudsen. The Faroes should have made sure of the three points with 10 minutes left after more inept defending from the Scots but the final shot went just wide.

Two minutes later, Scotland were level as Ferguson latched on to a through ball to calmly lob Knudsen. But still the Faroes had chances to win the game, firstly Flotum passing up a glorious chance and then Douglas foiling Elttor.

 


Faroe Islands: Knudsen, Johannesen, Jens Kristian Hansen, Thorsteinsson, Jon Roi Jacobsen, Elttor, Benjaminsen, Julian Johnsson, Borg, John Petersen, Christian Hogni Jacobsen.

Substitutes: Rogvi Jacobsen, Lakjuni, Hans Frodi Hansen, Johannus Joensen, Mikkelsen, Flotum.

Scotland: Douglas, Ross, Crainey, Dailly, Weir, Dickov, Ferguson, Lambert, Johnston, Kyle, Dobie.

Substitutes: Gallacher, McNaughton, Thompson, Wilkie, Alexander, Williams, Crawford.

Referee: J Granat (Poland).


I WON'T GO BACK TO THE OLD DAYS AND SELECT A BUNCH OF HAS-BEENS

BY BERTI VOGTS

WHAT happened to my team in the Faroe Islands left me feeling numb for a while but then a sense of anger very quickly became the overriding emotion. It is ridiculous that I should have to point this out but I want to make that much clear to everybody. Surely no one thinks for one moment that I wasn't hurt by what happened to us in the Faroe Islands? Of course I was. I didn't come to coach Scotland because I want to fail, I came here because I believe there is an opportunity to make this national team something to believe in again and despite what has happened so far, that remains the case.

It would be easy to read all the criticism in the Daily Record and other papers and decide that it would be best just to walk away but that has never been my way. I am even more determined to get this right although there seems to be a lack of support and a form of collective amnesia about some people in this country. And, yes, I am talking about everyone who said when I came here that it was time to go with the younger players. I could be wrong but I don't think I heard too many voices saying we shouldn't go this way, yet when we start there is loud criticism.

I understand the fans are frustrated, and that perhaps some people in the media might not want me here, but that's okay. I can handle that but it is wrong for people to be negative all the time without making any effort to analyse the difficulties the Scotland coach of today has to deal with. We are at a low ebb and we don't have a long queue of exceptional players but what we do have is a number of younger players who are hungry to learn and play for their country. Should I then dismantle their hope or crush their confidence because we haven't started well? No, that would be the wrong thing to do and, besides, the fans don't need me to tell them what went wrong.

If you deal with young players then you will have to prepare yourself for mistakes being made on the pitch. These slips may be basic and damaging but that's what happens when younger players are involved. It is even harder when the players are not all in their club sides because then they have to learn at the highest level, the international stage and of course that is the wrong way round. They should be learning and making their mistakes with their clubs but because of circumstances I have to select some of them for Scotland. They will become better and their clubs will also benefit but it will take a long of time. I am prepared to persevere with them but the fans and the country must also have the same attitude, yet already there is a clamour to reverse that process. So what should I do?

Should I go back to the old ways, the ways that didn't work and select players who are older and in decline? Remember, you have tried that method and the result was that Scotland stayed at home when the finals of the European Championships were played in 2000 and again this summer, when the World Cup finals took place in the Far East. There is nothing to be gained from going back to the old ways and players and I will not do it. I still believe that given time Scotland's younger players will succeed, even though there have been times, especially on Saturday, when it has looked as though we didn't know what we were trying to do.

There are reasons for that and there are one or two players who have shown they are simply not ready to become international players but I prefer to deal with that problem privately. I owe it to the players to tell them what I'm thinking first. Also, there are one or two who should have done much better because they are experienced but maybe they can't do much more for the team either. But against the Faroes the intention was to play with four at the back and go one against one, which should not have been a problem. I brought in Stephen Crainey to play on the left because he can do that but remember, he is only young. However, before we knew what was happening we had lost two goals and from then it became very difficult.

The Faroe Islands found it easy to make chances because our players didn't concentrate from the start and even if I had chosen some other players, there would have been no guarantee the same mistakes wouldn't have occurred. I tried some players and other things in our practice matches but they made some glaring errors also, so I decided to go with the players who made fewer mistakes. Scott Dobie was played on the right because he has a bit of speed and I needed that there but again there were problems because he had to be moved over and it was not the best role for him. Also, Paul Dickov's manager at Leicester said he could do a job on the right and that he had some life, so I played him, but not blindly.

I had tried them in training and practice matches and thought, yes, they should be able to cope but when the game started they didn't. The system was an easy one but with hindsight perhaps I should have played with five at the back and been more defensive. However, how many of us would have thought Scotland needed five defenders in a game against the Faroe Islands? I admit things looked a bit better when Stevie Crawford went on in the second half but I genuinely believed the players who started understood the strategy and what was required. It fell apart very quickly because of mistakes and a lack of concentration but apart from perhaps two or three others who were unavailable these are the best players we have. Yet, they didn't start playing until the second half. We were sluggish in the extreme and when the Faroese players attacked they were able to take advantage of our mistakes.

Their two goals came from the right side and that was how the Faroe Islands had beaten Liechtenstein last month but my players didn't seem to realise where the danger would be coming from. They had been warned and should have been alert to it but when players suddenly find themselves two goals down it requires courage, discipline and belief to repair the damage. Eventually, we showed some of those qualities but not enough and again I have to speak with the players to try to find out why there still seems to be a lack of belief in particular. I need to believe in my players and they have to believe in me and I'm sure that by continuing to do so we will get it right, probably by playing three at the back with four or five in the midfield. That's the system I would like to see us use and it's one I think will work. Instead of going with three at the back I went for an extra man there in the Faroe Islands, thinking that we might need that added security but mistakes upset everything. The fans need to understand that people do get things wrong, that sometimes they forget instructions.
 


Vogts's Faroe tale ending MIKE AITKEN, The Scotsman
 

EVEN for someone who turned a whiter shade of pale at Cordoba during the Argentina World Cup in 1978 and again in Genoa 12 years later for the double helping of humiliation against Iran and Costa Rica, Scotland’s draw with the Faroe Islands left this observer feeling distinctly queasy.
Up until now, Scotland’s worst performances on the international stage were best remembered for providing evidence of a slacker mentality. Our boys could play all right, but heaven help us if they looked down their noses at so-called lesser opponents: that was when the covers came off and we fell into a black hole of our own making.

Those calamities were all the more poignant because the national team contained men of genuine ability. Where the managers of the day went wrong was in neglecting to fulfil the potential of the players. Indeed, it’s worth bearing in mind how, in the aftermath of the draw with Iran and the defeat by Costa Rica, the Scotland teams coached by Ally MacLeod and Andy Roxburgh bounced back with thrilling victories over Holland and Sweden. Now you can charge me with negative reporting if you like, but there’s absolutely no evidence to suggest Berti Vogts will inspire the worst organised Scotland side in recent memory to perform a similar volte-face in the months ahead.

After going down with all hands to France, Nigeria, South Korea, South Africa and Denmark in friendlies, Scotland’s shambolic first-half performance in Toftir simply continued the trends of indecision, inexperience and ineptitude which have been the hallmarks of Vogts’ reign. My initial reaction when the German was appointed as Craig Brown’s successor was one of surprise: if you own a Lada you don’t need a Mercedes mechanic to service your car. One could only guess that David Taylor, the chief executive of the SFA, and the association’s executive committee which sanctioned the appointment, believed the introduction of a high-profile name would pour fresh ideas into a machine in danger of running on empty.

If that theory was reasonable, the reality has been quite different. No-one would dispute Scotland needed a new man at the helm after failing to qualify for this summer’s World Cup finals. Indeed, Vogts himself made a fair point in suggesting the time for change should have come after the 1998 World Cup finals in France.
International management is not a job for life. While there may be nostalgia for the professional manner in which Brown prepared his sides on the pitch and the amount of time he devoted off the park to briefing all aspects of the media (the Scot would never have made the gaffe, for example, of signing an exclusive deal to write for one newspaper), the national team sorely needed a change of direction and a different man at the helm.

What the powers-that-be overlooked, however, was that with radical change comes high risk and the possibility things would get worse rather than better. This is exactly the position in which Scotland now find themselves under Vogts. The national team was in need of new blood all right, but an infusion of the wrong type has put an already sickly patient on the critical list. In looking to the example of neighbours England, where Sweden’s Seven Goran Eriksson replaced Kevin Keegan, rather than Ireland and Wales, where former internationalists Mick McCarthy and Mark Hughes are in charge, the SFA may have been tempted by a ‘sexy’ appointment rather than a practical one. If Alex McLeish or Walter Smith or Joe Jordan or Paul Sturrock or Eric Black or Jim Jefferies or any other Scottish manager you care to mention had been given the job then it’s doubtful if David Taylor would have been able to make his little speech last February about the sun shining, the birds singing and the arrival of a new coach.

By raising levels of expectation, the SFA hierarchy have only given themselves further to fall. For a start, Vogts’ long-term strategy, which presumably has the approval of the beaks, is seriously flawed. International football is not a kindergarten where you can groom players to rule the world in four years time. The only criteria for representing your country in competitive matches is picking the best players available irrespective of age. Under Brown there was a reluctance to introduce younger footballers and his team looked stale by the end of the regime.Yet by concentrating on so many untried and untested lads Vogts has thrown the baby out with the bathwater. In order to function effectively at international level, it goes without saying players should be first-team footballers at their clubs. If you wanted an example of the difference between a first team regular and a reserve then it was evident against the Faroes in the performances of Stevie Crawford and Kevin Kyle.

Unable to break through into the Sunderland side, Kyle is a strapping 21-year-old with phsyical presence but much to learn. The moment in the second-half when Scotland were chasing a late winner and his clumsy touch ran the ball out for a throw-in to the opposition did not belong in this class of football. A late call-up to the squad and kept on the bench until Scotland were two goals adrift, the Dunfermline man, by contrast, added a bit of pace, a touch of urgency and a sense of direction in the second-half against the postmen, the plumbers and the schoolteachers who made up the bulk of the opposition.

It was Crawford and the midfield hub of Barry Ferguson and Paul Lambert who rescued a point for Scotland in this match and it’s to players of experience that Vogts must look for redemption. God knows, there isn’t an abundance of riches available to the manager. But the ailing state of Scottish football isn’t half as bad as the performances of recent months would suggest. It should be abundantly clear from the manner in which the Faroes drove a coach and horses through the middle of Scotland’s back four that the side must revert to a 3-5-2 formation. Apparently, Scotland did use this system in training for Saturday but then changed to 4-4-2. All able coaches start by locking the back door. On the evidence so far, Vogts not only left the door ajar, he put up a sign saying ‘Welcome Burglars.’

Reliable club men such as Steven Pressley of Hearts and Colin Cameron of Wolves should never have been left out of the squad and in an ideal, injury-free world one would like to see a side along the following lines wear the blue jersey in the not too distant future: Douglas; Dailly, Pressley and Matteo; Burley, Ferguson, Lambert, Cameron and Naysmith; Crawford and Hutchison or McCann. What would differentiate this XI from the ones selected by Vogts is that everyone would play in a position they know, unlike the muddle in Toftir where the decision to stick Scott Dobie on the right flank in the second-half was bewildering and did both the young striker and the team a disservice. Just as Hibs had to bite the bullet last season when a string of poor results and performances confirmed Franck Sauzee was not the man for the job at Easter Road, so the SFA need to take stock of a desperate situation where, astonishingly, the pace of Scotland’s decline has quickened under Vogts’ command.

Media turns on Vogts
 
Scotland's media have increased the pressure on under-fire manager Berti Vogts after his team's dire 2-2 draw away to the Faroe Islands on Saturday. The Sunday Mail's backpage headline was "Your time's run out Berti", while the match report led with "We can't go on like this". The paper quotes Rangers midfielder Barry Ferguson's trenchant criticism of his national manager. "We can't keep saying give Berti time," said Ferguson. "That's six games and we've yet to win. We need to start producing results."

 

 

The introduction to the Scotland on Sunday match report suggested that even disgraced politicians would have more chance of success than Vogts. "The odds against Henry McLeish taking over as Scotland football manager dramatically shortened last night," it says. Whether the former First Minister and East Fife player has his sights set on leading Scotland again is questionable. Perhaps they meant Alex McLeish, although the Rangers boss is unlikely to be knocking the SFA's door down.

Two of the paper's other headlines also give a fair indication of the low standing of Scotland's German manager. "Vogts away with the Faroes" and "I'm a Scotland player... get me out of here" sum up the SOS view. Paul Forysth writes: "The nature of their struggle, the helpless manner in which they surrendered two goals within 13 numbing minutes of the kick-off, singled this one out as an all-time low."

The Scottish News of the World was similarly scathing in its criticism. "Faroes 2 Zeros 2" was the headline on the front of the paper, while the back page simply said "Clueless". The inside back page read "Berti's duds are truly a laughing stock." And the Sunday Herald weighed in with a headline of "Utter humiliation" and asked "Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Vogts?"

Clearly stung by the heavy criticism of the man they appointed to turn round Scotland's fortunes, the Scottish FA responded by giving Vogts the dreaded "vote of confidence" on Sunday. That is normally followed shortly after by the manager being sacked, and if the Scottish media has its way Vogts' reign may come to a premature end.


Daily Record
 

LET BERTI GO ON A CLUB CRAWL

Sep 13 2002 [POST FAROE ISLANDS]
 

GETTING rid of Berti Vogts won't solve anything. Scotland would be no better off with Alex Ferguson in charge of the national team. Vogts deserves great credit for taking on a job that few wanted. He's an intelligent man and I don't believe he didn't know what he was getting himself into when he signed his contract. The task he's taken on was never going to be completed in the short term.

I don't think the problems that led to Saturday's 2-2 draw in the Faroes can be put down to the management. The real issue is with the attitude of our younger players - and I'm not just talking about those in the national team. I've watched under-21 games this season and am convinced there are still some exceptional talents coming through at 16 and 17.

In the past players haven't fulfilled their potential because they are given too much, too soon. We can't afford to let that continue. It's been too easy for youngsters in the SPL. Many have developed bad habits, particularly with regard to their role in the team. If they're a striker and not getting service they see it as someone else's problem. They should be taking a long look in the mirror and finding out what they can do to improve their game.

Discipline is another area that requires work. Michael Stewart is the perfect example. He's a talented player but it was shocking to see him throw the ball away during last week's Under-21 international. There are few Scottish players who have got to the stage in their careers where there is no room for improvement.

Managers and coaches can try to motivate them but, in the end, it comes down to their desire to be the best they possibly can. That's where I believe Steven Thompson has done so well lately. Vogts deserves credit for giving him a chance in the national squad but Steven has risen to the challenge. It's far easier to become an international than it is to stay an international. Steven clearly realises the amount of hard work that is required to go on winning caps.

His two goals for Dundee United against Aberdeen on Wednesday were well deserved. He's trying to improve his game and, for now at least, it's paying off. I'd like to see Vogts and his staff go around Scotland's clubs and watch players like Thompson in training and talk to managers. If the German spent a couple of days a week visiting different parts of the country he'd get a good idea of the methods used by different club managers.

I'm not saying his methods are better than anyone else's but at least other managers would know what he is about. Better continuity, especially in the way we coach younger players, can only be good for the game. Right now everyone should be looking at ways to help Vogts and his staff - not hinder them. The situation could change if results don't improve after a longer period. That is when David Taylor and the SFA have to decide when standing by their appointment will do more harm than good.

But now is not the time for that decision to be made. After listening to some comments in the aftermath of the Faroes, I wonder if being a failed manager is the only qualification needed to be a TV or radio pundit. These people made plenty of mistakes, which is why they're not in management now.

But it doesn't stop them having all the answers when it comes to Scotland's problems. It's time we respected just how hard a job managers have. There is enough pressure on people like Berti Vogts without people who couldn't stay in their own jobs telling them their business.
 

SCOTLAND DESERVE ALL THE BEST

Sep 6 2002 [PRE-FAROES]

 

SOME in the Scotland camp seem to getting a bit ruffled by criticism lately. They would do well to remember that a bit of constructive criticism never hurt anybody. In saying that, with a game against the Faroe Islands just a day away, this isn't the time for negative comments. Everyone should be behind the team to give them the best chance of taking something from the match.

Whatever happens in the European Championship qualifying campaign, the manager will stand or fall by his team's performances and, most importantly, results. We must remember that Berti Vogts, and Craig Brown before him, have been hampered by the fact that some of our best players have been ruled out because they don't feature regularly at club level.

I still believe Billy Dodds is our most prolific scorer. If he was playing regularly he'd be playing for Scotland tomorrow. Billy must have a load of splinters in his backside due to the amount of time he's spent sitting on the bench since moving to Rangers. The Old Firm's obsession with buying everyone else's best players hasn't helped the national team.

Vogts deserves a lot of credit for taking a chance on young players but the best place to develop these talents is in the Under-21 team. As for the full side, I'd rather see a winning team than a young team. And I don't care if that means playing people like Paul Lambert or even Tom Boyd and Dodds.


 

I FEAR BERTI HAS LOST THE DRESSING ROOM

Aug 23 2002 [POST DENMARK]

I FEAR some Scotland players are already starting to lose confidence in Berti Vogts. The performance against Denmark was dreadful and offered little hope ahead of the European Championship qualifying campaign. I don't think there has been any progress since Vogts' first game in charge against France.

It's important for a manager to have faith in his players, staff and tactics. He has to believe he's making the best of what he's got . But it's also vital the players believe in the man in charge. From what I saw on Wednesday night, it looks as though a few of them are starting to doubt Vogts' methods.

It doesn't matter what the German has achieved in the past. It's what he does now that is important - and he could start by changing his philosophy. Vogts was moaning about his team not pushing forward but that was always liable to happen with a 3- 5-2 formation. If Scotland are to lift themselves out of this disappointing run of results they've got to be positive. For me, that means showing more of the so-called Scottish spirit we used to hear about.

By that I don't just mean playing with determination. We must show flair and a willingness to attack. The best way to do that is by playing 4- 4-2 or, preferably, 4-2-4. With the formation Vogts favours there will only ever be one man on either side in a position to make telling crosses. But with a 4-4-2 or a 4-2-4 there's every chance of the full-backs and wingers creating scoring chances from the flanks.

I fully accept it is harder to get a good result at home than away in internationals these days. The way most teams are set up, the onus is on the home team to make the running. But packing five across the middle is no good, especially if the other team do the same. It makes the midfield as crowded as Woolworths on a Saturday afternoon.

I also didn't like the fact he played two big men together up front against the Danes. I've always believed that you need a quick player to feed off big strikers like Steven Thompson or Kevin Kyle. Vogts could do worse than have a look at the way Holland play. Their players and systems are versatile - when the other team puts three up, they'll only leave three men on them.

One manager I have a lot of time for is Jimmy Calderwood. I've only met him a few times but admire the way his teams play. Dunfermline have been a breath of fresh air this season and I would love to see a Scotland team playing with as much attacking flair. I wasn't at all surprised to learn they'd scored four goals last weekend - and that's not just because they were playing Dundee! Dunfermline always have plenty of attacking options and pose a threat to most opponents. More importantly, they are always entertaining to watch.

It gives me no pleasure to say it but you don't often hear people talk about Scotland like that anymore. The fans agree, judging by the attendance at Hampden. We're not going down the right road. In the end, the manager will have to stand or fall by the results and performances. Hopefully for Vogts and Scotland's sake, these improve very soon.